Upgrading the WELL metal gbox series

[daroyski]

sa atin pa stan bili din ako nyan? para kasama sa tune-up ng mp5 ko? hehehehehe .. sige bai.. enumerate mo lahat ng papalitan sa well na gearbox para one time nalang ang bilihan

[apache]

Price seems fit for its quality.
tks sir stan for educating us what these metal box are all about.

[miksko]

well in my case stan all of my units r ok! Maarte klng tlga! bigaon ka! bwahahahaha

and hindi nmn mahirap ibalik yung gbox ah!

hmmmm.. bout the greese ur ryt abaundnt sa iba iba nmn ok iba kulang!

hop-up? all of my units r ok! may kulay ba yung box ng m4 nyo or yung plain white box lng?

i tested a x120 last friday using a frnds m4 and guess it went thru and thru using .12 bb sa coke in can! weird but i kept on rpting it and sme rslt parin! tgos!

wat i did lng nmn is chnge the oring, binawasan ko yung greese and put in the x120,

gulat nga ako bwahahaha!

[miksko]

stansuarez said:

AIRSEAL NOZZLE:



Or rather... I wish it was an airseal nozzle.. hehehe.. This is THE BIGGEST air leak in WELL Metal gearbox AEG. After all the mods I've done to the internals- the darned nozzle leaks air like a sieve! It's "fit" with the cylinder head nozzle is simply toooo looooose! This is the reason that many chrono readings are all over the scale... sometimes the nozzle seals properly- giving good chrono readigs, but most of the time the nozzle is skewed off-center leaving a big gap for the compressed air to escape!

I've you've done all the other mods to the internals of your WELL AEG, then you might as well finish of with an Airseal nozzle(they come with o-rings too) to match the NEW HOP UP RUBBER(preferably GUARDER brand). I assure you that your chrono readings will not only stabilize, but so will your accuracy(no more low powered bbs ruining the pattern). A better fitting nozzle will also improve the feeding reliabilyt of your AEG. The darned thing wobbles so much.. it's a wonder it gets to feed BBs at all!

Other stuff to look into:

Remove the fuse block- it'll corrode in time and give you lots of headaches in the future. The battery terminals are idiot-proof anyway... (it means.. if you ever get to reverse them .. you're a bloody idiot!!!) ;D A direct connection will give you better power delivery.

Change to Deans Plugs while you've got the soldering iron out.
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www.wsdeans.com/products/plugs/ultra_plug.html

A pair will cost you approx 150p and you need two pairs.. the first pair is for your battery(female) and aeg(male)... one connector(male) from the second pair will be used for your charger. The stock Marui connectors are notorious for loose connections...

I almost bought a new EG1000 coz I thought my EG700 burned out.. turned out.. that my connectors were just loose! The Deans plugs realy improved power delivery... kayang kaya na ubusin ang power ng batts ko.. I think I added TWO HICAPS to the maximum usable power of my batts just by changing the connectors... Heck- Anton was about to buy a new set of BATTs for his TM M733- but after we changed his connectors to DEANS PLUGS nagulat sya na ang-tagal pala ma-drain ng batts nya... from two/three days of plinking- naging 1game + 1week na sya!

maarte ka tlga stanley!

my gud frnd has a chrono nways he went and buy a systema airseal nozzle! and install it sa well m4 nya nuts lil imprvmnt sa gun! tama si almghty no nid nmn yun kahit na stock nozzle ng tm or CA will do!

most of the gunsmith ksi pag nag papa upgrde airseal nozzle kaagad

the deans plug well i guess justified

rathr than buy a new hop rubber why nt chnge it with a metal one 900 lng nmn!

[aze]

mga sirs... matanung ko lng po kung anong dapat ang pinakafirst na gawin kong upgrade sa aking well m4 out from the box??? i was thinking kasi to upgrade agad ang aking spring but i think una ko muna ung metal bushing o kaya ung gears ehh..

i was just wanna ask for suggestions kung anong dapat kong unang upgrade? tnx daan sir!!!

[jpopc]

may i ask the availability of metal bushing?meron ba nito sa kokomi?

thnx

[rhomer]

aze ... better upgrade to METAL BUSHING, X120 SPRING and change the O-RING of the piston head for better compression.

you don't need to change the stock gears yet ... Gud Luck dude !

[BroJames]

Kanya kanyang priority. I'll check the fps first. If you're one of the few who are lucky enough to get a 250FPS M4 then play with it for a while. If your M4 is 220FPS or blow, lalo na kung less than 200FPS then 2 options.

1. Most common problem is air leak either sa piston head, cylinder head or nozzle. Except for the nozzle that is too loose there are remedies for the others. Fix these and you will get 270 FPS.

2. If 270 FPS is too low, you can put in a spacer worth only 5 cents which should increase FPS by 10-15% or change to a stronger X120 spring worth P180 retail. But consider changing bushings to metal too. Plastic bushings, kahit sa stock setup, will not last very long. If you replace bushings chances are you need to reshim. Let qualified gunsmiths do the shimming. This x120 setup should give you a 350FPS up (as reported by some buyers with such setup). But I can't say for certain kasi I am still waiting for my chrono.

The most common problem is in the cylinder/piston and nozzle or in short air compression. I have buyers who put in stock CA cyline/piston/spring/spring guide/nozzle and he was able to chrono his MP5 at 300+ FPS.

BTW, I've use STTI/SRC nozzle which appears to have a good seal kasi when I blew into the nozzle while it was on the cylinder head and it appears airtight. However, no chrono (yet) to document the result.

[rambo]

how much is the stti nozzle sir Bro James?

[poleon]

Mga ACM Bro,
Ask ko lang, aside dun sa harap ng Golden Bell, saan or kanino pa d2 sa Dvo pwede makaka bili ng parts pang upgrade-R5 . . Pwede ask est. ng prices . ty

[zorlacwarez]

hello.. sir stansuarez ,hindi ko alam ko active paba ang thread nato but i will try nways my question will involve a hop up rubber i presume, pero di pako sure... here's the scenario after i upgrade my well m4 with c.a. s.t.u gear naglagay ako nang pdi190 spring,springguide,ported pistons etc... so to test its fps i tried poormans "coke" chrono, at first it can go thru the bottom of the can and side to side of it but after a few days i notice that the fps is getting lower by now it cant penetrate the bottom of the can and only one side of can can be holed up i check my gears and springs all is ok xcept for the hop up rubber that i suspect, i dont know how would you classify the bad hopup rubber and good h.u. but i think its no good ....can my suspicioun be accurate??? tnx alot more power!

[SANDMAN]

Have you checked your o-ring on your piston head? It might have shrunk in size if some of the old grease is still in our R6. A faulty hop up rubber will also cause your fps to drop- as well as a dirty barrel. Have you cleaned your barrel lately? It may be full of grease already... Check your Hop up bucking and lube it with silicone oil to prolong it's life. Good luck.

[timex]

hmmm.. i think it also has a same case wd my wellm4, after i mod it wd x120spring, mbushings, shims, sgyd, portd, new sanyo bt and etc. it went thru one side and almost the 2nd side of the poor mans "coke" chrono...after 2-3 games it doesnt anymore even one side at a range of 2ft..

i havent check it yet so maybe sir stan is ryt, it has somthing to do wd the old grease chewing up the o-ring mechanism much less the hop up ruber.. ty!

BTW, sir stan wen will we know if its time to change the hop ur rubber?and wt brand is beter to replace it? wil changing it to metal h.u. asembly be beter also in terms of acuracy and range..

[SANDMAN]

The Metal hop up assy, or any other hop up assy for TM or CA will NOT FIT the Well R6. I usualy know when to change the hop up assy only when installing a new hop up assy does change the performance... in other words- trial and error lang po... unless of course you see obvious signs of damage(tears etc). I prefer SYSTEMA brand HOP UP packing or the GUARDER clear silicone variety. Sabi nila, maganda din daw yung prometheus RED... pero I haven't tried it yet...

[timex]

tnx for the info sir stan...