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Post by SANDMAN on Jan 28, 2006 0:46:56 GMT 8
Gumawa na rin ako ng review ng gears na 'to sa FAS...
Kaso, ilang beses na bumagsak ang FAS at nawala na yung review ko dun.. .kaya repost ko na lang dito.
what can I say... I'm IMPRESSED!!!!
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Post by gundamn on Jan 28, 2006 9:33:39 GMT 8
Yup I'm impressed... Kaya nga nag-iipon na ako para sa MAX TORQUE FULL SET... hehehe
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Post by SANDMAN on Jan 28, 2006 22:32:15 GMT 8
Here is my initial reveiw that I posted at FAS...
www.filairsoft.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=106
Since I already installed TWO of these Max Torque Full Sets, I might as well give my initial review just in case anybody else is interested.
My first installation was in a CAM15 which comes with 6mm bushngs and an EG1000 motor pulling an SP150 spring.
The Set came with pretty much EVERYTHING you need to upgrade a gearbox except for the SPRING itself. Items in the package are:
Max Torque Gears (systema infinite equivalent) rated for MS150SP-MS170SP-MS190SP
Polycarb half-tooth piston body (the last four teeth of which are METAL)
6mm Sintered metal(oiless) bushings
reinforced anti-reverse latch(ver2/3)
red hop up bucking
Aluminum Piston head with bearing
spring guide with bearing
shims
I bought the package for 9k+ here in Davao City. Quite expensive I'm sure. But if you do a little math and deduct the prices of the individual parts from the package price, you'll end up with an infinite ratio gearset costing less than a Systema STU gerset! Beat that!
Actualy, since I didn't use the piston head, spring guide, and bushings - I was able to sell these parts together with my 4month old piston body, hop up bucking, systema STU helicals and Systema anti-reverse latch! Total cost of upgrade- wickedly LOW!
On to the components then...
Gears- Like any Infinite ratio gearset, these require half tooth piston bodies and slight modding of the version-2 gearbox during installation. It only took a few mins with a needle file to remove the appropriate amount of material from the gearbox to allow the sector gear to spin freely- no need for a dremmel or machine shop.
There are five anti-reverse notches on the bevel gear and the bevel gear has helical teet meshing with the spur gear. Teeth are very well cut and meshing them together shows very little "play" when you try to move them against each other. These gears ar TIGHT.. unlike STU FLAT gears with their large teeth that have a lot of "play".
Shimming the gears in a CA M15 gearbox didn't follow the recommended shimming guide. I had to use about.2-.4 more shims per gear on the right side than was recommended. However, once shimmed... the gears spun freely and with very little gear-whine.
Shimming another set of the same gears in a TM V3 gearobx was a real pleasure however. I only had to change the value of two shims in the recommended shimming guide to get it right... Of course it took me two to three hours of careful Obssesive Compulsive shimming to get it right... but ...in the end... jackpot!
The piston body is quite slick.. litteraly.. madulas sya... It has self-lubricating properties... I swear! Even if it's polycarb, it feels like teflon... The half teeth may look small, but they're supported on one side by some kind of "skirt" that extends down from the piston side. The design princible seems to be sound, but only time will tell if these pistons are within the same league as the Deepfire piston bodies. The last four teeth are also made of meta to reduce wear on these last four teeth.
The bushings are made of the same sintered metal construction as the Systema Oiless bushings.. They fit snuggly in the bushing holes of either the CA or TM AEGS I worked on and only time will tell if they're just as sturdy as the systemas.
The packaged anti reverse latch has an attractive color, but it does feel quite heavy in the hand.. So i guess there must be some realy tough steel behind that funky anodizing... This had better be good.. I sold my systema anti reverse latch already.. so there's no going back! hehehe
Red Hop up bucking- I'm usingthese from now on! THey're a breeze to install(no folding or tearing) and they need a much shorter break in period than any other hop I tried. My recently installed systema HOP up bucking took 3hicap mags before my aeg shot accurately again. The prom red just needed a couple of full auto bursts to clear i'ts throught....a fter that... whoooowheee.... incredible range and accuracy!
The aluminum piston head with bearing and spring guide with bearing are very similar to their systema equivalents. The fit perfectly and are very finely built. NO rush jobs here.
Finally- I LOVE THESE SHIMS!!! They have .1, .2, .3 and .5mm thickness shims! Lovely! NO more wrestling with a calculater now that there are .1mm shims! Until somebody comes out with .05mm shims.. these are my favorite from now on!!!
Since we "only" installed SP150 spirngs on both of my installs... I can't realy attest to the gearset's performance with M170 and M190 level springs. However, the gears are very quiet indeed(almost like a full helical).
ROF is noticably decreased as compared to my MS130 on STUs, I'll probaly try using Systema Super Torque Up motors or bigger voltage batts to get better ROF.
I'll monitor both instals closely and give you guys more feedback as time goes by...
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Post by SANDMAN on Jan 28, 2006 22:33:46 GMT 8
Yup I'm impressed... Kaya nga nag-iipon na ako para sa MAX TORQUE FULL SET... hehehe
Nice one!
Benta mo sa akin ng 50% off ang STU set mo sir ha! Gunun din naman ginawa ko kay Gancho eh... Mahay nuon ko... sige lang.. teamate bitaw.. hehehe |
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Post by ROSCOE on Feb 2, 2006 18:03:51 GMT 8
kuyawa na topic dinhi oi. prometheus naman.
syet!
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Post by SANDMAN on Feb 16, 2006 10:21:57 GMT 8
Wala man gud ko kwarta pang palit ug bago na gears sir... so kaning full set na lang akong gi-palit... kay paghuman nako baligya sa akong mga un-used parts from the kit ug sa akong mga daan na internals ug gears- nahulog ug LIBRE ang akong KIT! Wahahahaha.....
update- just checked on the set that installed in an M4 last valentines day- OK pa kaayo ang parts... no signs of wear anywhere! Kahit ang anti-reverse latch... walay tatsa! Piston body- ayus gihapon! Naputulan lang ug spring ang anti-reverse latch, pero basi tungod lang 'to sa pag dec*ck sa iyaha...
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