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Post by snyper on Jun 5, 2006 9:36:38 GMT 8
Hey fellow snipers, just want to know how accurately can you shoot you sniper rifle?
Let's say, at 100ft (yan ba minimum natin?) 150ft, 175ft, and 200ft. Put in your grouping shots so we know? and add the weight of your bb's
Anybody know where we can get bb's na mabigat? like from .29 - .36?
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Post by denski on Jun 5, 2006 10:43:53 GMT 8
250 feet precision accuracy. 545fps (measured in .20gram bb) using .25gram bb.
If you cant picture that then... I can shoot a barking dog sitting outside Alsimons house gate from my room window. About three to four houses (middle class housing with garden) away. Damn dogs keep me awake at night (sorry hehehe).
In airsoft terms:
Accuracy. Ability to hit a man size target at a certain range.
Precision. Ability to hit a target with bb groupings less than 12 inches at a certain range.
Higher weighted bbs are used to control bb tradgectory that are affected by external factors (environmental factors). If you live in a windy environment, its best you use heavier bbs. If not, then the least heaviest you could use would be better.
Heavier bbs lower fps, in turn lower range (in a controled environment). It only increases range if your tradgectory was affected by environmental factors in the first place... in a controled environment, it does not.
Airsoft snipers experiment on bb weights to find out what the best bb weight for his rifle is on his own game area. There is no set bb weight for a certain fps but rather what is effective and gives him maximum range, precision and accuracy.
Unless his rifle has a fixed hop system, he can use different weighted bbs on different gaming environments. Hop is adjusted everytime bb weight is changed.
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Post by snyper on Jun 5, 2006 18:59:12 GMT 8
which gun among your arsenal sir ang gamit mo yung APS ba? grabeh lufet!
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Post by denski on Jun 6, 2006 0:28:46 GMT 8
Nge... failed to specify which gun. Its th APS type 96 sir.
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Post by korn on Jun 11, 2006 23:23:10 GMT 8
my accuracy is good...lol my bbs are not bwahahaha
im no sniper lol
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Post by snyper on Jun 23, 2006 7:26:13 GMT 8
Sir dens,
Just want to ask, yung APS type 96 mo sir ano anong klaseng barrel ang gamit mo and what's the inner diameter and length nito.
On your APS setup. .25 bb's ba ang gamit mo? and you get to hit a target at 250ft away?
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Post by denski on Jun 23, 2006 10:25:14 GMT 8
Forgot the brand but its 6.04mm tight bore barrel for aps type 96. No other brand available for it but that. Limited lang gumagawa ng upgrade parts netong 96.
I just wrote it above... yes I can hit targets at 250feet... my bedroom window to alsimons gate... 4 middle class type housing away. If I aim for the dog's head... I get the neck hehehe
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Post by snyper on Jun 24, 2006 3:59:10 GMT 8
hehe galing2, ser how long ang length nya (the barrel itself)?
I also have this question, kc most barrel in stock for most AEG (dunno with BASR's ) that is is somewhere in the 6.08-6.10 and the so called tight barrels is 6.04 -6.03. Is there any difference if you go lower that 6.03? Like will it increase or decrease the FPS and range. Since unlike real bullets where it gets its spin from the twist in the barrel's groove. Sa BB's naman is from the HOP, so if it is a tighter barrel will the bb's top spin be hindered. We'll its just a though that crossed my mind, baka you have any ideas about this kind of question
THanks!
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Post by denski on Jun 24, 2006 16:40:02 GMT 8
BBs are suppose to be 6.0 mm. The difference of .03 and .04 will not hinder your bb from spinning since these will ride under a cushion of air inside the barrel.
The problem with very tight barrels is that you have to use high quality bbs. If it is deformed, expect bb jams. I heard that there are barrels tighter than 6.03 but I havent seen one yet. I also have no experience using those, therefore cant tell if those are good or not based on my own experience.
Barrel lenght in BASRs dont matter anymore. Unlike AEGs... BASRs dont have much internal vibrations. It doesnt have motors and other parts that give off too much vibration.
In AEGs, longer barrels stabilize the tradgectory of the bb before it goes out the barrel. Thats why the longer your barrel in AEGs, the better your accuracy.
PSG1 AEG barrels are longer than BASR rifles but BASRs are still more accurate and precise... why? Because BASRs are built for precision shooting.
Air comming out the cylinder of BASRs are constant. It gives off the same amount of air everytime unlike AEGs. In AEGs, the piston retracts even if the amount of air is still not in optimum level for shooting.
Real gun ammunition is cylindrical, thats why grooves in barrels are used. Airsoft ammunition is spherical. Hop principle or bernoulli spin principle can apply here since the ammunition used is spherical.
BBs spin, down to up, for air friction on a climbing motion. Imagine yourself going up a flight of stairs... only there are no metal or wooden planks... just air. That is what the bb is doing. Now if the bb is spinning left to right... down to up spinning is negated. Tanio koba barrels dont have hops... useless.
The spinning motion allows us to use environmental factors to our advantage.
Real gun ammunition propulsion is the gun powder. Airsoft propulsion is compressed air. Both are totaly different systems of projectile weaponry, therefore cannot be compared anddont have equal capacities.
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Post by snyper on Jun 25, 2006 7:45:48 GMT 8
thanks sa info ser.
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Post by denski on Aug 25, 2006 11:15:04 GMT 8
No problem. Just ask away if you have anymore questions.
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Post by ps6379 on May 11, 2007 22:54:22 GMT 8
the last reply was last year... right now we have the edgi tight barrels can go as tight as 6.01.. thoughts on that sir?
is it safe to say that shorter barrels can go for the 6.01 and a longer barrel can go for 6.02 or 6.03? or is it just preference?
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Post by denski on May 12, 2007 19:19:59 GMT 8
Really havent tried that yet, therfore I couldnt say for sure. But you will have to use really good branded BBs fro very tight barrels if you dont want BB barrel jams.
Short or long barrels, if your BB brand isnt good... it will jam.
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Post by xykosomatik on Jun 7, 2007 10:32:30 GMT 8
what's the best brand of BB's to use on a tight barrel? I use KSC perfect .20 and .25... but feedback shows it has a high tendency to shatter on impact. any other brands to choose from? na try ko ics .20 isang mag.... every 3 or 4 bb's mag jam na sya... i guess another reason why snipers have this one shot one kill motto is maybe they have to pay for each bullet they use ;D
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Post by denski on Jun 7, 2007 12:10:11 GMT 8
Yup. BBs for BASRs are expensive.
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