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Post by SANDMAN on Jul 23, 2005 2:23:07 GMT 8
Just a few tips and tricks for the BE STEYR AUG lovers out there:
*don't over-fill your magazine. Maipit ang nozzle ng gearbox nyo at hihina ang bato ng BBs. I usually remove 4-5bbs from a full magazine. Mas maganda nga gamitin ang magazine loader ng DE kasi pwede mo bilangin kung ilang BBs ang ipapasok mo.
*Watch your HOP! Be carefull when you take apart your AUGs. You can loose your hop-up rubber and render your AUG inoperable. remember Gancho? 
*Center and align your hop. If your BBs are curving to the right or left- adjust the inner hop up assy(yung black inner barrel assmbly where the HOP meets the barrel- it can be rotated). Keep the dimple in the 12 oclock positon para straight ang lipad ng BBs.
*Conditon/full charge your battery. Better kung may discharger kayo para full charge and full discharge cycles talaga kayo.
*Lube your gearbox. I was able to see some AUG gearboxes with minimal grease from the factory. And some with NO GREASE AT ALL!!! Para sure- open your AUGs and lubricate your gearboxes. Concentrate on the rubber o-ring on the piston, the nozzle, recoil spring guide, the gears and pinions, and all other moving parts(tappet plate, trigger contacts etc).
*don't use petroleum based oil. It'll ruin your plastic and rubber parts. Don't use harsh oils/solvents for real-steel guns(WD40 comes to mind). They're good for metal parts guys- bad for plastic.
*Clean your barrel. Thats' why we have a cleaning rod in the box guys- USE IT! Put a small swab of cotton on the end and moisten it with silicon oil or even baby oil. Swab the barrel several times to remove excess dust and bb residue. Make sure your remove your HOP assembly first so that it won't get damaged by the cleaning rod. Swab again with a dry patch afterwards para walang excess oil maiwan sa barrel.
*clean your HOP. Just remove the dust and other accumulated dirt with a soft moist cloth. Just be careful that you don't tear your hop or get oil/grease on it.
*clean your magazines. You can oil the internals of your magazines as long as you wipe it dry afterwards para hindi maging malapot ang inyo BBS with oil. You can take apart your magazines by removing the single screw at the bottom then sliding that part off the magazine. The magazine will now break apart.
BASIC TIPS pa lang guys. ADVANCED TIPS and MODDING TIPS to follow...
In the meantime, you can check out sir GANCHO's barrel cutting thread.
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Lyle
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Post by Lyle on Jul 23, 2005 2:29:51 GMT 8
nice tips sir stan!
i think most of the things mentioned are universal.. we can apply it to other AEGs as well.
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Post by ROSCOE on Jul 23, 2005 8:06:56 GMT 8
very good info sir stan... and thank you sa aking new gearbox.... sa wakas kadula na ko tom!!
btw... ganda nung bago mong shipment... marami maglalaway dun!
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Post by SANDMAN on Jul 23, 2005 8:14:40 GMT 8
Lyle- yes sir.. cover the basics muna tayo before proceeding. We have to walk first before we can run diba. (nabitin ka no?) Relax lang sir... marami pa akong i-share sa grupo dito. hehehe... thanks to our resident alien sir MIKSKO of course.
ROSCOE- ur welcome bai. See you on the battlefield. Kung gusto mo- gawin kong special honor na ikaw ang una kong tirahin ng mga bagong units ko? Oks lang? ;D
GUYS- I can't stress enough the LUBRICATION of the GEARBOX part of my post above. Dami talaga akong nakita na AUG na kulang ang LUBE sa loob. Syempre, mass produced na kasi 'tong mga AUG natin at minamadali ang paglagay ng LUBE.
Kung kulang ang LUBE- mas malakas ang wear and tear sa gearbox parts. May air-leaks tayo sa piston kaya loose compression na sya(parang makina). LUBE-UP should also be done regularly- after every 1000-2000 rounds nga sana eh. Or better yet, after every TWO games. Lalakas ang bato ng AUG nyo if the o-ring is properly lubed and mas tatagal ang buhay ng GBOX nyo.
Gamit ko yung mga TAMIYA mini4wd grease(yung orig ha- hindi AULDEY or CHINA-CHINA) ko na naka-stock dito sa bahay.
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Post by miksko on Jul 23, 2005 10:46:17 GMT 8
im nt so techie bout my guns thats why i have my beloved rock he teaches me and helps me out with my mods
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Post by miksko on Jul 23, 2005 10:54:48 GMT 8
dont go for pricey set-ups 2k max nayun i know of some acm players dat spends 6k-7k for internal upgrades kabobohan lng yun! bili knlng ng high-end secret to a gud gun is regular maintenance land wag nyong abusuhin mahalin nyo baril nyo! |
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Post by ZeeZeeTop on Jul 23, 2005 15:43:37 GMT 8
mga sirs, pwede ba na ang gagamitin na pang lubricate eh yung lithium + teflon lubricant?  saan mabili yung mga silicone based lubes? |
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Post by SANDMAN on Jul 24, 2005 3:20:15 GMT 8
mga sirs, pwede ba na ang gagamitin na pang lubricate eh yung lithium + teflon lubricant? saan mabili yung mga silicone based lubes?
ZeeZeeTop - Check mo lang yung lithium + teflon lubricant na wala talagang petroleum based carrier oils sa composition nya. Maganda din daw yung mga lithium grease ng Tamiya eh. Di pa ako nakahanap ng silicone based lubes sir. Sama mo kami kung meron kayong makita ha. 
Tama si sir MIKS. Though di pa ako tapos sa original topic ko.. uunahan ko na rin kayong lahat-- Di sulit ang ibang upgrades para sa BE AUG! Lalagyan nyo ba ng 4,000peso bore-up kit ang inyong 2,500peso AUG? I don't think so! Mag high-end ka na lang kung ganun diba?
So balik na lang 'tayo sa ACCEPTABLE MODS. Eto ang next chapter natin-
ACCEPTABLE MODS means that it will still be within the boundaries of ACM games in spirit and in technology. remember our slogan guys- less pain, MORE FUN!
ACCEPTABLE MODS:
*Spring Spacers- one of the most common mods for our ACM AEGs. Check out sir AMBUSH's thread here to see how it is done:
acmdavao.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=teketeke&action=display&thread=1119500461
Be sure to check all clearances after you install your spacers. Make sure that the PISTON can still FULLY TRAVEL back and forward. See that the SPRING can also be compressed fully. Check that the gears are well lubed and aligned to avoid excessive wear and tear.
*O-RING replacement therapy. An active upgrade and preventive maintencance in one step. The piston o-rings on our AUGs are quite thin and wear out easily. Replacing this with a *slightly* thicker o-ring will improve the air compression efficiency of your gearbox and extend it's service life(bulok talaga ang stock o-rings ng AUG). If the O-ring is too tight, then your RATE OF FIRE will suffer since mabibigatan ang gearbox. Madali rin masira an gbox kung ganun.
*porting the piston head- also improve the pumping efficiency of the piston in two ways. ONE- during the forward movement- the air compression through the PORTS will actualy PUSH the O-RING into the cylinder walls- thereby improving it's SEALING characteristics. TWO- during the backward movement- the ports will allow air to rush into the cylinder void from the BACK of the piston aside from the FRONT ONLY(kung di ported ang piston).
*polishing the barrel- make the barrel smoother inside so that the BBs will pass through smoother and faster. Improves accuracy and power. Use an abrasive paste like GLO metal polish or super fine rubbing compound. Make sure you remove your HOP-UP or else masira ito!!!
*Replacing the batteries:
Option 1- BE STEYR 9.6volt 900mAH batteries. The stock steyr batteries are only 9.6volts 700mAH. These batteries offer more stamina at the same voltage and ROF.
Option 2- custom built 9.6volt 1,400mAH batteries. Same ROF but the higher amperage means that you charge your AEG batteries a lot less often.
Option 3. custom built 10.8volt battery pack- the higher voltage will mean that your MOTOR will turn faster and your AEGs RATE OF FIRE will improve significantly.
Warning- 12volt battery packs are popular with hi-end players since their AEG motors can take the higher voltages. The BE AUG might not be able to take the higher voltage or its lifespan might be significantly reduced. Proceed at your own risk |
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Post by gundamn on Jul 26, 2005 11:31:19 GMT 8
Sir Stan, can you give us some idea on how to go about porting the piston head?
BTW, thanks for the tips that you give about sa mga gear alignment, napalitan ko na yung O-Ring ng Steyr Aug ko..
Mabuhay ka...
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Post by SANDMAN on Jul 26, 2005 23:10:22 GMT 8
Sir Stan, can you give us some idea on how to go about porting the piston head?
Pinapag-aralan ko pa 'to sir. Iba kasi ang design ng BE piston head sa Marui piston head. Nagawa na raw 'to ni Sir Shadow Persona pero di pa nya na share ang info sa grupo. Meron kasing RUBBER part dun na di ko alam kung paano i-port kung dun yung rubber na yun.
Oh.. bakit yun lang? BItin naman! Review naman dyan kung kamusta na. Success ba? Sulit ba? Share naman!!! |
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Post by gundamn on Jul 27, 2005 10:24:39 GMT 8
Sorry, nabitin kayo. Ang isang napansin ko yung sound nya, parang merong na syang supressor.
Kung ang power naman ang paguusapan well so far I notice na merong konting improvement sa power unlike yung lumang o-ring pa ang gamit.
But, I have to test it sa battle field muna. :-)
All in all siguro masasabi ko it's one way of maintaining your AUG na rin. Kasi kung hindi mo papalitan ang o-ring malamang ang suffer ay yung piston head. Tama kaya yun? :-)
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Post by gemboymagz on Aug 15, 2005 18:19:15 GMT 8
i successfully ported my BE piston head. ngaun, my steyr fires .2g bbs at almost or even longer than other steyr firing .12g bbs  we will be modifying a few piston heads this week, i'll try to get some pics. c shadow persona, dli gyud na cya mag share... ambot nganu. pero atleast his giving us ideas. kung dli tungod sa iya, walay hicap ang STAG  by d way, i used an MR733 spring sa BE grbox nko, mao pud cguro na kaya nya ang .2g bb. sir stan, wa pa gyud ko ghapun kadula sa inyo oy.... cge lang, nxt time. dont wory about my steyr... level I ghapun ni  cannot penetrate the side of a coke can pero murag gamay na lng gyud kulang, boslot na... aguy...  |
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Post by SANDMAN on Aug 15, 2005 20:48:48 GMT 8
Welcome back sir GEMBOYMAGZ! Dugay kaayo ka nawala- pero magandang balita naman yang dala mo sir! Sana nga ma-share mo sa amin dito sa grupo ang pics ng porting mo.
Maka-kita bitaw ka na walay "secreto" among grupo dire- post gyud namo tanan dire sa internet for everybody else to see.
Nice idea pud nang imong Mr733 spring sa BE grbox nimo sir. At least wa na ka nigastos pa kay naa man kaha kay busted mr733 dira. Ayaw lang testinga ang spring sa CYMA Mossberg shotgun sir ha- kay murag M150 daw ang equivalent strenght ato niya. BUAK gyud dayon imong gbox ana. hehehe.
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Post by gemboymagz on Aug 16, 2005 11:51:12 GMT 8
yes sir! murag mobo man pud ang spring yata sa mossberg.... ang mr 733 pud, taas gamay, giputlan lng nko. problem now is, ang battery. seems dali lng mahurot ang karga and murag na bug-atan na pud ang motor. been thinking of a 10.8v batt na 2100 mah... ipon sa ko wawarts!  regarding sa mr733 spring... most likely magpa fabricate mi og springs kay murag impraktikal na man mopalit MR733 para kahoyan og spring hahahaha kung naa magpa apil, just PM me para maapil sa order or post na lng ta cguro poll dri sir stan ;D i think it would cost around 60-70 bucks. who wants 'em? nyways, i have the pics for the porting already.... post nko later this week kung ma transfer na nko sa computer. |
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Post by gundamn on Aug 16, 2005 13:29:34 GMT 8
Sir medyo matagal ko na rin yang gusto malaman kung paano mag port ng piston head.
Salamat sa pag-share mo Sir Gemboymagz
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