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Post by SANDMAN on Aug 5, 2005 1:11:42 GMT 8
The basics first.
Voltage increase- faster ROF(Rate of Fire)
Amperage- same ROF but longer life between charges
NiCd- Nickel Cadnium. Old School but still best for AEGs. Needs proper charging and discharging.
NiMh- Nickel Metal Hydride. Newer technology. Usualy higher Amperage but not ideal for AEG use ksi mababa ang discharge rate nya. Sabi nga sa FAS- mas preferable pa ang 1,400mAh NiCads sa 2,000mAH HiMh!
To be continued guys(sleepy na ako):
General upgrade concepts.
Voltage increase- how much is enough
mAH increase- how much is too much
Brand upgrade- bakit sanyo?
Upgrades for specifice AEGs
DE-M83
GB-MP5SD6
Steyr AUG
G18c EBB
XL AKS-74u
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Post by SANDMAN on Aug 5, 2005 23:06:41 GMT 8
... Continuation...
Voltage increase- How much is enough:[/u] Hi-end AEGs can easily take 12volt batteries due to the excelent design of their motors. However, ACM motors are less tolerant of higher voltage due to the cheaper design, materials and construction. The immediate benfit of higher voltage batteries would be the higher RATE OF FIRE of your ACM. BBs will spit out like a stream of water from a garden hose.  But don't over-do it though. Mechbox design, magazine spring strenght and the general "timing" of the ACM mechanism could only take so much. If your ROF is too fast- you'll experience misfeeds and/or double feeds. Generaly, +1cell (or 1.2volts) upgrade from stock is enough. Do remember to use full-auto sparingly though. YOur motor will heat up faster and your gears will wear down faster with a higher ROF. mAH Increase- How much is too much:[/u] My humble opinion and limited experience would put 500-700mAH as sufficient for non-Steyr ACMs and 700-1,000mAH for STEYR AUGs(as long as these are SANYO Batts). These would give you a minimum of 2weekends use between charges and a lot of plinking in between. Sa non-AUGs- baka abutin pa kayo ng 1 month! Of course this will depend so much on your playing style, upgrades to your ACM and how much plinking you do in-between games. FYI- I used my 1,400mAH Sanyo AUG batteries for OVER a month before charging them. Di pa sya DRAINED when I charged them- I just wanted to charge them para masubukan ko sa TM AUG ko. Overkill na ang 1,400mAH batts sa BE AUG. Take my word for it. Kung gusto nyo- benta ko pa sa inyo ng 1,400pesos 'tong battery pack ko na 'to. 1,600+ ang gastos ko dito! Bili na lang ako ng 700mAH batteries para drain agad at charge agad. Para full-charge ang batts ko every weekend.Brand upgrade - Bakit Sanyo: SANYO JAPAN NICADs are simply the BEST in the biz. Matagal na 'to gamit ng mga AEG and RC hobbyists worldwide. Pwera lang sa mga bagong lithium polymer batts-(na sobrang mahal at explosive pa) wala na mas magandang batterya kesa dito. Kung mapapansin nyo, parang mababa yung mAH ratings na binigay ko sa taas. Mabaa yung mga figures ko dahil TUNAY yung rating na binibigay ng SANYO. Di kagaya ng mga ibang brands sa market- mataas ang naka-tatak na mAH figures nila- pero madali naman ma-drain.  Mahal ang Sanyos- pero sulit naman. Bottom line- you get what you pay for. To be continued again guys... maka-lipong type... [/color]
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Post by SANDMAN on Aug 8, 2005 23:28:06 GMT 8
Upgrades for specific ACM AEGs:
M83: You don't need a higher mAH battery with this AEG. Mahina lang naman kumain ng batts ang motor ng Double eagle eh. Some modders even use cordless telephone batteries pa nga - eh 300mAH lang yung mga yun. If building a battery from scratch- use sanyo nicads(the cheapest you can find- basta sanyo) between 300-500mAh. Kahit 6cells pa rin(7.2v) basta SANYO lang. If you want to modify your existing batteries- just add one more NiCd battery cell and create an 8.4v battery pack. Pwde rin naman 9.6volts(gaya ng ginawa ni SIR AMBUSH) as long as you don't use SANYOS. Para mag-drop ng konti ang voltage kapag may load na yung motor.
GB MP5SD6- Medyo mahina talaga ang ROF ng AEG na 'to. I would definitely add another battery to the existing battery pack for 8.4v total voltage. I even tried the 9.6volt steyr AUG battery with this AEG at kayang kaya naman ng motor eh. Pero mas comfortable ako sa 8.4v lang. Enough na rin yung 700mAH na batts dito. Slightly bigger than the M83 motor lang naman ang GB motor eh.
Steyr AUG - As i've said before, di ako comfortable with a 12v battery sa AUG - I've tried it sa semi-auto and short bursts lang dito sa workbench pero di ako comfortable na gamitin sa battlefield.
10.8v lang ang maximum recomended voltage ko for the BE Steyr. Wag din over-kill masyado sa mAH. Kahit 1,000mAH lang okay na. Dili na mahurot ang mga 1,500+ batteries sa atong BE Steyr maski upat pa na games!
Okay lang din dagdagan ng isa pang batt ang stock battery pack.
If you realy want to start from scratch, then build a 9.6volt battery pack with sanyo 1,000mah nicads! These batts will give your steyr an ROF comparable to the 10.8v china made batts.
G18c EBB pistol - Since backup weapon ko lang naman 'to. I use alkaline batteries with it. Maganda kasi ang shelf life ng alkaline- kahit store mo pa ng 1 year- di sya mag self-drain kagaya ng mga nicads. Bilis pa ng ROF with alkaline batts kasi 1.5volts per cel ito. Thats a total of 6volts with the four alkaline cells compared to 4.8volts of the rechargables.
Pero kung gusto nyo talaga ng NICADs for your EBB- baka mahilig kayo sa plinking sa bahay... Kumuha na lang kayo ng 900mAH na AAA cells. Just make sure to use a separate charger for these batteries ksi mainit na masyado ang charging sa loob ng pistol. Lumalambot ang mga gears dahil sa init.
AKS-74u - This AEG has fast ROF out-of-the-box. I wouldn't increase the voltage of it's battery pack anymore kasi baka mis-feed na ang abutin sa bilis ng ROF nya. Papalitan ko na lang ang batteries nya with SANYO 500mAH or 700mAH nicads para mas-kakayanin nya ang long bursts(para sulit ang hi-cap). Meron din naman ROF gains with the move to Sanyos eh. Kasi di na mag-drop masyado ang voltage pag load ng motor.
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Post by SANDMAN on Aug 10, 2005 1:01:24 GMT 8
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Ni-Cad
Tenyente
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Post by Ni-Cad on Sept 26, 2005 11:10:44 GMT 8
sir stan, possible ba na pwede gamiton ang 2100 maH na battery sa Steyr Aug? Kadtong battery sa digicam yung Php 120 each ang isang batt. Mahina pa rin kac yung 900 maH na battery which I use in every game.
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Post by joshnerez on Sept 26, 2005 18:41:00 GMT 8
opo mga sir, ano po bah mas maganda gamitin na batt sa AUG unit?? ung lasting talaga..ty po..
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Post by chanbri on Sept 26, 2005 18:53:05 GMT 8
sir stan, what does the K rating in batteries signify?
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Post by trabunco on Oct 3, 2005 6:19:28 GMT 8
sir stan, a friend of mine bought a sanyo nimh @ 2100mah rating and this is made in japan. it costs P90 per cell. will this perform at par with sanyo nicads @ lower ratings?
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Post by poly on Oct 3, 2005 9:02:09 GMT 8
sir, kodak 2500 mAh ang ginamit ko a month from now... I will plan to change it to energizer 2500mAh... still in 9.6V parin... no need for increasing it to 12V like what some of our group did...
satisfy naman ako sa level ng battery ko... specially nag design ako ng Mag Aug na motor driven i call it (Rx Hi Cap), hindi man nag lowbatt for 9 games...
My battery performs very good. Just wanting to try the more expensive ones like energizer or duracell..
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Post by amawski on Oct 6, 2005 12:44:32 GMT 8
hw about lead acid sirs, as compared sa 9.6 volts 1,000 mah na sanyo, anong preferable sa dalawa...  |
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Post by SANDMAN on Oct 7, 2005 9:36:15 GMT 8
Mas prefer ko yung 9.6v 1,000mAH sanyo for the simple fact na pwede mo pa rin tago sa loob ng battery compartment mo ang batts. Di mo kelangan ng external battery pack. The batts will last just as long and the ROF will be just about the same.
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