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May 15, 2006 12:34:58 GMT 8
Post by Delta_Shrek on May 15, 2006 12:34:58 GMT 8
sir stan... im a little confused with the springs and their equivalents.... some say PDI is better, others say Guarder or Systema and so on....  Meron ba tayong equivalent table based on the guarder springs.... heeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppp Am I in the right forum? hehehehehehehehehehe |
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May 15, 2006 12:48:43 GMT 8
Post by red_souljah! on May 15, 2006 12:48:43 GMT 8
sir what ba beng beng mo??
PM mo nlng sir stan
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May 15, 2006 12:51:25 GMT 8
Post by red_souljah! on May 15, 2006 12:51:25 GMT 8
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May 15, 2006 13:02:25 GMT 8
Post by Delta_Shrek on May 15, 2006 13:02:25 GMT 8
thanks sir... naka well mp5 ako. thinking of changing my spring... hehehehe kulang pa ang power.... naka sp120 ako. myt change to either pdi 190 or sp 130. thanks uli  |
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May 15, 2006 13:06:41 GMT 8
Post by chris on May 15, 2006 13:06:41 GMT 8
depende lang yan sa preference mo sir.. guarder or systema springs usually base their springs on meters/sec like M140 = 140 m/sec while PDI 190% is 190% stiffer than the stock spring.. ang pinakamahal ata is the PDI spring.. maybe because its handmade don't know really.. did i do my homework? |
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May 15, 2006 22:15:03 GMT 8
Post by SANDMAN on May 15, 2006 22:15:03 GMT 8
Systema used to be the best and ONLY choice in springs. A lot of old-school airsofters rely on systema coz they've had very good esperience with the brand in the past. However, these last couple of years have seen the decline in the quality of SYstema springs(and other systema parts as well)...
We now go to our OLD RELIABLE- PDI spring. Also made in Japan, these springs have been known for their durability (even up to 2years of use) in the past. However, their reputation was tarnished recently(last year) when a lot of BAD PDI190 springs surfaced and ruined a lot of AEGs. Some say that these were mis-labeled PDI springs, and some say they were fakes. Howver, an undeniable fact is- that GUARDER springs made a big come-back during this time... you may draw your own conclusion.  By the way, the current releases of PDI springs are NOT THE SAME quality as the OLDER(2years ago) PDI SPRINGS. Iba na- mas madaling lumambot at medyo mababa na rin ang FPS... hmmmm....
Guarder springs are also very very good- they are oil tempered and also last longger than the current systema springs. Also much cheaper than the japanese springs- they're what we use most of the time these days. Just watch out as some guarder springs are TOO LONG for some setups- they have too many coils and the spring can't compress properly inside the piston body.
I'll just list down the springs I use in the order of power that they give.
SP110
PDI150
PDI170
SP120
PDI190
SP130
PDI210
SP140
SP150
SP160
SP170
Oooopsss... walang Systema... heheheh....
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May 16, 2006 11:18:56 GMT 8
Post by miklo on May 16, 2006 11:18:56 GMT 8
oo nga. heheheh. not recommended i guess?  |
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May 16, 2006 12:29:09 GMT 8
Post by Delta_Shrek on May 16, 2006 12:29:09 GMT 8
finally the guru answered.... hehehehehe.... thanx sandman for the input and also sir chris, thanx, u did ur homework....
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May 24, 2006 15:37:08 GMT 8
Post by shot_tagay on May 24, 2006 15:37:08 GMT 8
tanong lang sir stan... safe ba gamitin ang PDI190 sa WELL R series gearbox? nakakita na kasi ako ng R6 gearbox na nasira gamit ang SP130.
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May 24, 2006 16:43:11 GMT 8
Post by hellboy on May 24, 2006 16:43:11 GMT 8
yup, i 2nd d motion of sir shotagay.
sir stan, if i were 2 upgrade my well r6...
(i love my well r6 so much, we've been through a lot, 'til death do us part... lol)
should i go d pdi way or sp way or guarder way?
modesty aside sir, no probz po ang budget.
which set-up should i go for?
hmmm...
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May 24, 2006 18:39:57 GMT 8
Post by chris on May 24, 2006 18:39:57 GMT 8
according to sir stans post, mas baba ang rating nga PDI 190 spring kesa SP130 so it should be fine.. I've seen a lot of Well gbox with PDI 190 including mine before and ok man siya.. palit ka lang talaga ng spring guide with bearing..
sir hellboy sp springs are made by guarder.. and also according to sir stans earlier post, sp springs are in these days..
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May 24, 2006 23:33:25 GMT 8
Post by ROSCOE on May 24, 2006 23:33:25 GMT 8
if you want stiffer springs (>m140) that's much cheaper
meron din "HIT" brand. hehehehe. as in gahi na barato.
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May 25, 2006 11:12:12 GMT 8
Post by hellboy on May 25, 2006 11:12:12 GMT 8
hmmm...
tenk u sir chris & sir roscoe 4 d wonderful bits of info. u've shared w/ me!
however, i'm still w8ing 4 d man himself to comment...
lol
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May 25, 2006 13:31:43 GMT 8
Post by Delta_Shrek on May 25, 2006 13:31:43 GMT 8
sir hellboy, parang ok man lang ang pdi190 or sp 130 sa well series gear boxes. brother un ang ginamit sa r6 niya and for awhile sa r8. lets all wait for sir stan to comment... hehehehehe
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May 25, 2006 15:02:09 GMT 8
Post by SANDMAN on May 25, 2006 15:02:09 GMT 8
Yep, tama po silang lahat- we've used PD190% on a lot of NC/Ronin AEGs and they've stood the test of time. Proper use and maintenance is all that is needed. Haven't had a single gbox break yet... so far... 
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